048 // Beth Perkins and her journey to self-racialization with

by KJ Roelke | Published July 20, 2021
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In this week’s episode of your favorite Korean Adoptee podcast, the Janchi Boys sit down with Beth Perkins and talk about growing up in Missouri, how 9/11 was a major flashpoint for racial identity reckoning, and the importance a community plays in an adoptee’s journey out of the fog.

Later, we get into PEPERO and it’s delicious and CRUNKY?! YEAH-UH!

// Meet Beth Perkins!
In this episode we talk about:
  • Intro: 1:20
  • Beth Perkin’s Interview! 6:09
  • Proximity to BIPOC: 10:32
  • Wrestling with Asian American / Adoptee identities: 14:07
  • 9/11 as a flash point for racial identity: 24:58
  • A new point of view: 35:01
  • The importance of community: 39:24
  • The next step of the journey: 42:20
  • Let’s get CRUNKY with Pepero! 51:17
  • Post-Credits Scene: 1:11:20
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The Janchi Show Quick Bio
We’re three Korean Adoptees spread out around America and each of us are at different stages in life. We’ll talk about the Korean adoptee experience from our perspectives and learn more about our shared culture, usually with food. And it won’t just be the three of us; each week we’ll have other adoptees from all over the world joining us to talk about what makes us similar and what makes us unique. So join the party!

// Meet the Janchi Boys!

Nathan Nowack
Nathan was adopted from Seoul and raised in a small town in Oklahoma by a loving family and adopted sister.  After college in Colorado he later moved to Los Angeles to pursue a digital media career and eventually started 2 photography companies.  He has a wife and 3 kids and has reconnected with his biological family in 2014.

Connect with Nathan!

  • Website: http://www.nathannowack.com
  • LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nathann/
  • Instagram: http://instagram.com/nowackphoto
Patrick Armstrong
Patrick was adopted from Seoul and raised in a small(er than Nathan’s) town in Indiana. After dropping out of college, he travelled around, working a variety of jobs before co-founding the All Times Are Local Foundation with his adopted sister in Chicago. He currently lives in Indianapolis with his fiancé and is 7 seconds into his journey of exploring his Korean-American adoptee identity.

Connect with Patrick!

  • Website: http://www.alltimesarelocal.org
  • LinkedIn: http://linkedin/in/patrickarmstrong219
  • Instagram: http://instagram.com/patrickintheworld
K.J. Roelke
KJ was adopted from Daegu and raised in Dallas, Texas with his two biological, older siblings and his younger sister, adopted from Russia. After spending a decade in the Midwest for college and career, he and his wife are back in Dallas and living large! He has been on his journey of discovery since 2015 and you can find him online to see what he’s up to now!
Connect with K.J.!
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Executive Producer: Jerry Won
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